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Disillusioned with "Homeland" - Syrian-Armenian Family Leaves Yerevan for Tbilisi

Mariam Mughdusyan


00:31, November 9, 2012

On the Georgia-Armenia border, we were forced to wait quite a long time. Apparently, there was something amiss with the passport of one of our fellow travelers.

“They’re from Syria. They’ll look and then send you back,” said the irritated driver.

“Just look at all the money they collect at the marathons,” said the red-haired woman.

They came. Turns out there were some errors in the children’s passports. A family-the parents and their children, aged two and four years.

They were from Syria. They had come to Armenia two months ago. Now they were coming from Georgia.

“We fled the war in Syria. On the day we left, when there was heaving shelling, an Armenian taxi driver cam and took us to the airport. My husband couldn’t even see his ailing bed-ridden father to say goodbye. He only lived one hundred meters from us. The shells were falling all around us. It’s a miracle we weren’t killed,” recounts Helen Tarchinian.

They somehow bought a ticket for double the price for a plane flying to Armenia. All they got when they arrived in Yerevan was a booklet with the telephone number of a legal advice agency. There was nothing of the “Ari Toun” (Come Home) welcome espoused by the Ministry of Diaspora Affairs.

“We rang that number and they demanded $100 for legal advice. We never got in touch with them again,” says Sayid Garikian, Helen’s husband.

The couple rented an apartment in Yerevan and started to look for work. Their Armenian odyssey had begun.

In their search to gain a footing, what amazed them the most was the indifference of Armenian authorities regarding the Armenians left behind in Syria.

“There are many Armenians in a terrible state in Syria who dream about fleeing, but those who come here are in worse shape. Many just want to return and die honorably rather than stay in Armenia and live a beggar’s life. I now people who have returned disgusted,” Sayid says.

As we were talking, little Aleks started to cry. He was tired from the long trip. “We’ve becoming wanderers with our kids,” mutters Helen to herself.

-       Why did you go to Georgia? I ask

-       To find work. The conditions there are better. A knowledge of English is better valued. In Armenia, they only want Russian speakers. But even if I knew Russian I wouldn’t get hired. I have no contacts”

-       Isn’t it the same in Georgia?

-       It’s not like that there. We’ve now come to Armenia to resolve our children’s passport problems. When it’s done, we’ll return to Georgia. At least there is hope that things will be better there. In Armenia, when they find out you are from Syria they try to trick you, to get something from you.

Sayid is a pharmacist. Many have promised him employment but nothing has happened. The family’s savings will soon run out.

The family saw going to Georgia as the only way out. They’ve spent the last two weeks there and have realized that their chances at finding work are greater.

They regard both Syria and Armenia as their homeland. Now, however, they have been forced to look for another homeland.

They feel slighted and insulted by official in Armenia and shocked at the local attitudes.

“Once, I went to the Yerevan Municipality with a question. I entered the room and saw that the workers were celebrating somebody’s birthday. A worker told me to come back another time. She said, ‘don’t you see we are busy with a birthday party?' His wife chides him for telling the story, but Sayid was very hurt by the incident.

Later, they suddenly remember that the Armenian driver in Syria who had driven them to the airport had been killed by the rebels.

“I didn’t say farewell to my father. My parents stayed in Syria…” We do not speak.

Helen got out in Spitak to look for relatives. Sayid travelled on to Yerevan

In the taxi, the passengers were laughing and telling jokes. Sayid was withdrawn. Perhaps he didn’t “get” their humor. Perhaps it was even illogical to his ears.

P.S. After arriving in Armenia, I found Helen on Facebook. She said that they had relocated to Georgia for good.


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Comments (67)
1. Մարգարիտա10:00 - 9 November, 2012
Որպես հայաստանյան հայ խնդրում եմ Ձեր ներողամտությունը,հարգելի Սայիդ և Հելեն....Կներեք նման անտարբեր վերաբերմունքի համար....Հաջողություն Ձեզ,Աստված Ձեզ պահապան,հուսով եմ իշխանությունների երեսից չեք հիասթափվի մեր երկրից....
2. Helen Darchinyan12:40 - 9 November, 2012
TSAVOK SA E MER IRAKANUTYUN@,MERSI COMENTNERI HAMAR,,,,
3. Ani15:17 - 9 November, 2012
Բան չկա էլ ասելու, լրիվ ասվեց...
4. Վ. Առաքելյան15:42 - 9 November, 2012
Վերջերս վրաստանում հանդիպեցի մեկին, որը Հայաստանի պետպատվերով ձրի բուժումը թողած մեկնել էր այնտեղ վիրահատվելու: Այստեղ ավելի էժան և որակով -ասաց նա և շարունակեց - կար ժամանակ որ հակառակն էր:
5. hasmik16:25 - 9 November, 2012
ամռանը Վրաստանում էի, նախանձով էի նայում այն փոփոխություններին; որ կատարվել էր այնտեղ, ու ես էլ էի մտածում, որ ինչ լավ կլիներ,որ ես ապրեիի Վրաստանում
6. Tamara16:32 - 9 November, 2012
Ajo cavum em shat, u cavum em, vor duq misht lav eq yndunel Sirajum mez, isk ajstex inchpes en anum:( Vergers es inqs akanates exa nman bani, qani vor im canot sirahajerin ei uzum ognel andznagir stanalu hamar, u ajd mardakan anyndhat xabel en gna 10 oric kgas, gna mek amsic kgas u ajdpes, es el gnaci imanam inchu e ushanum, mek tari e mardik dimel en u uzum en haykakan anznagir stanan: Nax asem, varvel chgiten andznagri bajnum, shat kopit en, es inqs zzveci u patcarabanum en, vor nor pet e ekel hiny poxvel e u nmanbaner, chem uzum manranal, bajc iroq zzveci, inch e linum, ete mi qich jptaq u normal mardkanc canaparheq? mite djvar e, che vor mardik irenc 100 tarva tun u texn en drel u ajstex ekel, vomanq el het veradargan u zohvecin: Mite sa e hay azgy? ov pox uni miajn nran en texiq talis u govabanum, zzvum em, zzvum em u atum ajn hayerin voronq hay kochvelu iravunq chunen...
7. athanat18:21 - 9 November, 2012
Мда, стыдно даже. Чиновники им не нравятся, наверное в Сирии лучше, приезжают, страдают, жалуются на все, причем еще в аэропорту, даже неприятно слушать. И вот в Грузию поехали :) Ну надеюсь там у них получится, хотя конечно не очень уверен. Максимум будут полы мыть.
8. Harut21:14 - 9 November, 2012
Good riddance! Please stay in Georgia.
9. ofelya21:37 - 9 November, 2012
Ցավալին այն է, որ հայն է հային վնասում,իսկ այս իրավիճակում զարմանալի ոչինչ չկա, քանի որ Հայաստանում 30-35 տարեկանից հետո ապրելու մասին մտածելու իրավունք չունենք:
10. Ofelya22:03 - 9 November, 2012
Աստված Ձեզ հետ ու Ձեզ պահապան հարգելի Սայիդ ու Հելեն...
11. Andy22:51 - 9 November, 2012
The moto of Armenia Armenians towrads Syrians, Lebanes and other diaspora Armenians, just send us money, don't ask any questions and than when you done, send us more money, we love you all, but don't come here, the more you send us money the more we will love you.
12. mane22:55 - 9 November, 2012
zzvum a mard es amen inchic: vatn en a, vor ban chi pokhvum, tenc el mnalu a, eli
13. JOHN23:06 - 9 November, 2012
ՍԻՐԵԼԻ ՄԱՐԻԱՄ հոդվածդ ՇԱՏ ԼԱՎՆ ԷՐ,ՇԱՏ ՊՐՈԲԼԵՄԱՏԻԿ,ՇԱՏ ՏԵՂԻՆ,սակայն պրոբլեմն էլ շատ...ծանոթ է ու մշտնջենական: Իր«Խմբապետ Շավարշը»պոեմում (դեռև՜ս...)Չարենցը գրել է. «Ռուսահայ եղբայրնե՜րը, Ընդունեցին թուրքից էլ վատ. այո, Ռուսահայ եղբայրնե՜րը, Ականջները դինջ,կուշտ ապահով...» Նույն Սաիդների ու ՀԷլենների վիճակն ունեցան 1946-1948-ի հայրենադարձները,նույնը՝(մի՜ քիչ բարվոք)1960-ականներին եկածները...
14. H Darchinyan00:22 - 10 November, 2012
Dimum em vomn athanatin ev Harutin....hargeli eritasard , miguce yev ceruni...inchic eq entadrum vor nranq mnalu en Vrastanum , ev inchi eq dzez iravunq verapahum nman grehik naxadasutun grel ays ejum,,,da dzer xndir@ che nranq kman te voch, kam incov kzbaxven entex,, aveli lav e dzer arajarkac gocov inqnert el zbaxveq. miguce da dzer gorcne? urishnerin el eq arajarkum hatak lvanal kam zbaxvel dzer sirac gorcov zibil tapelov,,,minchder quyrs-Helen@ mankavarj e, pesas-said@ bjishk dexagorc...aynpes vor nranq irenc haci gumar@ kvastaken ,vortex el vor linen,,, isk qo nman anamot u tgetnern el kmnan aypes, inchpes vor kan,,,astvac ta inqt el haytnves nman iravichakum. erp erko poqr erexanerin tand 4 pati mej bantarkes inqt qo dzerqerov . vor vochinch chlsen u chtesnen,erb konfet uzen chkaroxanas ijnel xanut .ev erexanerid poqrik xndranq@ katares,,, erp elitar taxamasum gnvac nor tund u text toxnes u mazapurc paxches....ev erb haytnves qo sireli hayreniqum, vortex gone gluxt kdnes bardzin u hangist kqnes....mi xoqov djvar el dzer uxexin hasaneli lini im aysqan borboqvac toxer@
15. Vartan Marashlyan00:32 - 10 November, 2012
Es nerkayatsoun em RepatArmenia Foundaion-e www.repatarmenia.org ev menq patrastenq tesnel ete karogh enq ognel ais entaniqin gorts gtnelou Hayastanoum. Khdroum enq tramadrel irents kontaktain tvialnere. Vartan
16. DAVID00:33 - 10 November, 2012
ճԱՆԱՉԵՔ ՀԱՅԻԶՄԻ ԲՆՈՒԹՅՈՒՆԸ;
17. Մարիամ00:45 - 10 November, 2012
Հարգելի Վարդան, Հելենին արդեն գրեցի Ձեր առաջարկության մասին: Հեռախոսահամար չունեմ, քանի որ նրանք Վրաստանում են: Բայց հենց այս նույն հոդվածի ներքեւի մասում, որտեղ սկսվում են ֆեյսբուքյան մեկնաբանությունները, նաեւ Հելենն է գրել: Կարող եք նաեւ նրան գրել: Շնորհակալություն
18. H Darchinyan00:47 - 10 November, 2012
Hargeli @ntercoxner dzez chtva te nranq hatuk voxormutyun en xndrum,,,ta astvac vor nranc kyanqum amen inch kargavorvi u het veradarnan iranc tun u texin. ev naxkin gorcin.miguce sa jamanakavor e, miguce ev voch! chi kareli aydqan dajan u sar@ linel,,, ekeq chmorananq ayn mut u xavar tariner@...vomanq giten . vomanq el voch, vor henc irenq siryahaer@, nranc tvum ev ayntexi hay toshakaruner@ irenc beranic ktrum ev uxarkum ein hayastan, inchqan ognutyun enq stacel menq drsic, bayc nmanorinak ognutyun erbeq chen cucaberel u chenq el cucaberi vochvoqi,,,nranc uzacn ayn e vor irenc qrtinqov karoxanan pahel irenc poqriknerin.ev voch te mural,,kam ver@ nshvac Haruti ev athanati nman zibil tapel , kam el------- Максимум будут полы мыть (((((
19. ARTYOM DARCHINYAN01:44 - 10 November, 2012
SHAT CAVALIYA VOR MER HAYASTANI MASIN NMAN BANERENQ LSUM, INCHI PITI MER AZG@ PAXNI HAYASTANICH, JHE VOR DAYA MER ERKIR@, BAYC ARI U TES VOR ICXANUTYUNERI TANDINEL CHI TE INCHA KATARVUM MER AZGI HET, SHATEM CAVUM VOR NMAN BANEREM LSUM HELEN JAN ETPES MI XOSQ KA VORTEX HAC ENTEX KAC, KAREVOR@ LAV LINEQ,, ISK MNACHA MER HAYERIN MIYAN HAMBERUTYUNEM CANKANUM,
20. Armen02:29 - 10 November, 2012
Armenia has opened its borders to all Syrian Armenians to be able to live in a safe palce, away from the death and destruction that has taken over Syria. Unfrotunatley our government cannot give them free housing or a stipend when its own population has many homeless and impoverished citizens. I think we have to appreciate what the govenment has done for the Syrian Armenians and understands the financial limitations that it faces.
21. robert arduni02:44 - 10 November, 2012
A wandering Armenian seeking good life in a foreign land. The saying "patience is a virtue " bodes well here. I wish them good luck.
22. Ed02:49 - 10 November, 2012
Haskanali e vor Haystani karavarutyunum ashkahtum en anbanner, talanchiner, portabuydzner, zorbaner---- ba joghovrdi masin inch kasek? Che vor tneri gner@ bardzartsnoghner@, pakhstakannerits mi ban avel pokel@ hents joghvordn e anum "-Վրաստանում այդպես չէ՞: -Այսչափ չէ... Հիմա եկել ենք Հայաստան, երեխաների անձնագրերի հարցը լուծենք ու հետ գնանք Վրաստան: Այնտեղ գոնե հույս կա, որ ավելի լավ կլինի, իսկ Հայաստանում երբ իմանում են, որ Սիրիայից ես, փորձում են խաբել, մի բան ավելի «պոկել»:" ----- Inch ek kardzum, yete Vrastani ishkhanavorner@ gan Hayastan, ardyoq nuyn hajoghutyamb barepokhumner kkaroghanan irakanatsnen?
23. Ed03:04 - 10 November, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_x_mxqYWeCU#!
24. Kevin04:21 - 10 November, 2012
Dear Helen, there are two kinds of Armenians in Armenia: 1. Hayastantsis and 2. HAYVANstantsis. Unfortunately you fell into the hands of number 2. And don't let Hayvanstantsis like "Harut" discourage you, because the day will come when this garbage of humanity will be cleansed from our homeland. He's probably not even in Armenia, probably writing from some run-down apartment in California. In addition, you should consider going to Artsakh if things don't work out in Georgia. I don't know how the Georgian-Armenian community is, but I have heard some nice things about them. Never go to Turkey. Anyway always stay strong, and keep your faith and culture in your heart.
25. hovo08:35 - 10 November, 2012
Ai harut jan jishtes yergrum shad zibilner kan qo nman shad jishtes Ai arten qo nman zibilneri badjarov martic hiasdapvumen ...ko nmannere voronk ipr azkaseren hamarum badrasde inke azkin tavajane ....arten mi vakhci ckhosoghic vakheci shad khosoghic sagh ore ai drank en badrast en martganc ariunov bazar anen irenc mezaperanutiamp ....amote amote ay nor artnacaz mezaperan hayrenaser
26. Նաիրա09:14 - 10 November, 2012
Հերթական անտարբերության դրսևորում.... ցավոք, սա է իրականությունը, ամեն անգամ ավելի ու ավելի բացահայտ... ինչպիսի սրտացավ հայրենիք, օ, Մայր Հայաստան, ո՞վ ես դու հիմա, ու՞ր ես դու հիմա....
27. AGBU is helping12:17 - 10 November, 2012
Yes, to the rest of this year AGBU in Yerevan has a fund of $60,000 dollars for aid to the needy Syrian refugee in Armenia. Most individual are getting after application some 60,000 trams monthly as rent money.
28. Sako13:28 - 10 November, 2012
I hope you all understand it is not the armenian government responsibility to give these ''syria'' armenians housing or cars or jobs, it is struggling to help its OWN citizens that pay taxes, that have been born & living in armenia threw thin and thick.......i don't feel sorry for these syrian armenians you might ask why? well before syria turned into this mess these same syrian armenians never contributed to the motherland or cared for the motherland, since now they are stuck they seem to want everything given to them.
29. Dikran16:00 - 10 November, 2012
@Sako...Why are you making such a blanket generalization that ALL Syrian-Armenians never did anything for Armenia?? The point is that Armenia CLAIMS to be the homeland for all Armenians. If so, it should be doing more morally in terms of welcoming these people. It's more a matter of attitude rather than finding them jobs, cars or housing. The whole affair is pretty poorly organized by the government in Yerevan. They deserve better than being handed a "legal advice" brochure after landing in Zvartnots Airport.
30. Kevin22:10 - 10 November, 2012
@Sako. Ridiculous post by a troll. An Armenian would never say "these same syrian armenians never contributed to the motherland or cared for the motherland" if he knew anything about Armenians at all. If these Syrian Armenians didn't care about Armenia, why would they be going there? You think they have no other choices? If they wanted only money they could have gone to places like UAE, and they could also go to Lebanon very easily and be with the Armenian community there.
31. Armenyan00:09 - 11 November, 2012
Indifference and unprofessionalism in corrupt Armenian government is nothing new However, I wouldn't blame Armenian society for all disappointments diaspora Armenians face there. One has to understand that these people usually leave their warm place and expect red carpet thrown under them when they arrive in Armenia. When they encounter hardship they blame Armenia. Same happens when they come to America. Even though it's very developed country nothings for free here and no one expects new comers. People get disappointed in America as well. In this case it sounds like they came to Armenia for their passports only. It's probably hard to travel with Syrian passports.
32. Sako07:36 - 11 November, 2012
I'm no troll, just stating the facts which obviously you don't seem to like. If these syrian armenians have alot of other countries to go to rather then ROA, why are they not doing that? to answer that question for you because they do not feel safe , they seem to want everything on arrival to armenia when they were living good they made little to no contribution to the motherland. Armenia should not even help them most of them don't even read or write armenian to begin with, most of them are arabnized, most of them are seeking temporary safe refuge until they find another country to hop to. The Armenian government should be helping it's own CITIZENS which have been born and lived & defended the motherland and have gave birth to a son to hold our CURRENT borders. In short who cares about the syrian armenians most of them never visited armenia before this mess anyway.
33. Artur08:14 - 11 November, 2012
sa sut patmutuna zhoxovurd. hayastanum lav en dimavorum siryai hayerin. da im achqov em tesel. nuynisk inqnatirnerov ognutun enq uxarkum siria. mi qani takanqner kan vor uzum en poxa ashxatel. bayc petakan makardakov lav ognum en
34. Pete09:33 - 11 November, 2012
Reading some of these comments bashing Syrian-Armenians, you can understand why the Armenian nation is in such a mess; divided and without purpose. All the stereotypes about Armenians infighting all the time rather than pulling together in times of crisis appear true to a large extent. Aleppo is getting bombed and battered to dust and some commentators begrudge Armenians from Syria seeking haven in Armenia. It's ridiculous. Perhaps, if the government in Yerevan and the diaspora had been better organized, in advance, to meet this challenge many more would find Armenia to be a welcoming place with the necessary resources to help those in need. Not all Syrian-Armenians are wealthy businessmen who can afford to stay in Armenia without finding work. Are they to be shunned as well? Look at what happened to the Armenians from Iraq who fled that war zone? It was a national disgrace from top to bottom. You'd think that Armenia would have learnt some lessons. People like Sako have real anger issues that make his vision quite myopic. It sounds as if he's had personal issues with some Syrian-Armenians and now he's inclined to believe that the entire community is undeserving in its hour of need. Sako might not care about the plight of fellow Armenians but I'm sure that the majority does. It's easy to criticize from the safety and comfort of one's own home. What difference does it make if some are coming to Armenia on a temporary basis. If we can't lend a helping hand, both morally and financially, to Armenians in need, what does that say about the nation as a whole?
35. Kevin11:33 - 11 November, 2012
@Sako... You know, I'm sorry... I really should not have been arguing with a 12 year old.
36. george11:57 - 11 November, 2012
Comment...sa commentneren arten ge desnank te inchou hay joghovurte badmagan hayasdane gorsntsutsats e u hima miyayn mi pokr hayasdan une ,, hay azke yerpek irar che sirats u chi sirer ,,, apsos
37. Sako13:59 - 11 November, 2012
12year old?? i don't think so. Pete, the syrian armenians have done no good for armenia when they were living good they start to remember about armenia when they are in trouble, when they are threatened on a foreign soil armenia or armenians living in armenia don't need them in armenia they don't and won't contribute to anything in armenia they will just complain, whinge and cry foul until they find another country to hop to. Like i said most of them are arabized, most never been to armenia, most never had any intentions of ''visiting armenia'' when times were good, why should armenia give them anything? Armenia's responsibility is for it's own citizens living in armenia not a new arabized visitor.
38. hovo18:21 - 11 November, 2012
sako did you say arabized Armenian ,why ?Because they know Arabic language or because they live with Arabs reserving themselves as Armenian in Muslim country ,,,. i said that if you were in the same circumstances probably you will change your religion and nationality as Armenian ....you have not any idea about Armenian history dump
39. hovo18:31 - 11 November, 2012
hi again dump sako ,i forgot to mention that more and more Armenian from Syria and all over the world come to fight in Artsakh "if you don't know the name of Artsakh, gharabagh , "and in 1988 earthquake Armenians in Syria helped mother land ....so let us love and respect themselves instead of writing dump things....
40. Kevin23:16 - 11 November, 2012
"12year old?? i don't think so" - oh... 11? People here are taking you seriously, when they don't know that you aren't even old enough to know what Artsakh means. Your posts show clearly you know nothing about Armenians, nor Armenia, and on top of that you are extremely immature, mr "Sako".
41. Jirair23:30 - 11 November, 2012
I guess people with hate in their heart like Sako would also turn away the CHILDREN of these "Arabicized Armenians" and let them fend for themselves in war-torn Syria. How anyone can stereotype an entire community as "undeserving" is beyond comprehension. I know many Syrian-Armenians here in Yerevan that don't complain or whine. They are hard working people with families who contribute greatly to Armenia just by being here. By the way Sako, you like to label people as being this or that, good or bad...What have you done lately for the good of Armenia? When was the last time you visited? If we follow your logic, most of the diaspora is "undeserving" as well since they have never been to Armenia. Of course the Armenian government must take care of its own first.... BUT IT DOESN'T. The government could have done MUCH MUCH MORE for its own people and the refugees if it was run by leaders who actually were concerned with the fate of Armenia. They would have put an dent in corruption, the shadow economy, done away with the oligarchs and their economic monopolies that strangle the economy and the emergence of a vibrant middle-class, modernized the state apparatus, etc....If successive Armenian governments had started to tackle all these ills, then today, the government would have been in a much better financial position to assist those seeking safe haven in the homeland.
42. Sako01:21 - 12 November, 2012
Listen here, these same syrian armenians and there great grandfathers ''ran'' away from armenia in 1915 to lebanon,america,syria etc etc.....they are the chickens to leave behind and run away from ''turks'' and find a refuge in another peaceful country all because they are to scared to face turks, now you have the same problem they call ''syria'' there country how it's beautiful etc etc, then when it turns into crap they buy a ticket and run away again, in artasakh war how many people came to fight? 500 from the diaspora out of the 500, probably 350 was hayastanci hyes living overseas. I have & do contribute to armenians living in armenia, i visit armenia EVERY single year since i was 18 YEARS old , i have been to armenia more times then you will ever visit in your life span, what the armenian government is doing is NONE of your business, you sit in your warm chair and read articles on the internet then spread your propaganda. to put it simple the hayastancis don't like you, don't like the way you betrayed your country when turks were killing armenians in 1915, WE don't like you putting your 2cents into the general everyday happenings of armenia from thousands of KM'S away. We don't like that most of you are arabized eat arab foods,marry arabs etc etc in our eyes you guys are no better then turks.
43. Jirair08:35 - 12 November, 2012
I knew it....Sako doesn't even live in Armenia....By the way SAKO...I am descended from Hajin...Ever heard of it???Ever heard of the Hajin resistance? I went to college in Soviet Armenia and have been living in Armenia for the past 12 years. So DON'T PREACH to me with your warped sense of who an Armenian is!!
44. HETQ11:37 - 12 November, 2012
DEAR READERS - Please keep your comments on point and free of personal attacks. Otherwise they will be edited or pulled entirely.
45. hasmik14:04 - 12 November, 2012
athanat, իսկ ինչ վատ բան կա հատակ լվանալու մեջ, այստեղ կարևորը մարդու իրավունքներն են,դու այստեղ մարդ չես, դու չես կարող քո ոչ մի իրավունքը պաշտպանել , դատարան չկա, որտեղ քո հարցերի պատասխանը գտնես, այս երկիրը դարձել է մի քանի ընտրյալների երկիր, նրանք էլ թող մնան իրենց երկրում
46. Stepan00:04 - 13 November, 2012
I hold Hetq responsible for publishing hate driven comments about any nationality, and the divisions in them. As a respected media outlet, you should not allow anyone like Sako and others to publish their "critical" views on who ran away and who stayed. It is a complex process, always has been, and if anyone thinks they have the brain and the power to analyze it, good luck. Also, do not forget that these comments are read and sometimes even written by many "neighbors," they can afford paying someone to surf the Armenian news and provoke hatred. Syrian Armenians, persian Armenians, Hayastancis, etc. STAY TOGETHER, BE UNITED, HELP PEOPL EIN NEED! HETQ-- stop publishing hateful remarks, if it is against the free press/speach doctrine, screw the doctrine...
47. Hay02:21 - 13 November, 2012
Sako, are you Armenian?
48. Kevin06:12 - 13 November, 2012
HETQ: Thanks for deleting my posts. And you say "Please keep your comments on point and free of personal attacks"... so you are saying its OK to ignorantly attack an ENTIRE GROUP of people, but its not OK to attack single trolls like "Harut", "Sako", "athanat", etc and put them in their place because it would "hurt their feelings"? - I am not impressed at all with your journalistic "integrity".
49. HETQ08:33 - 13 November, 2012
Dear Readers...Evidently, we have to step in and provide some general guidelines regarding the posting of comments in Hetq. Preferably, however, we'd rather see our readers take responsibility for their own comments..... "Hetq welcomes and encourages all to voice their opinion regardless of identity, politics, ideology, religion or agreement with other community members, the author of the post or staff members as long as those opinions are respectful and constructively add to the conversation. However, we will not tolerate direct or indirect attacks, name-calling or insults. A comment will be blocked if it is extremely abusive, off-topic, uses excessive foul language, or includes an ad hominem attack. Those commenting under a variety of names will also have their comments blocked."
50. Sako10:18 - 13 November, 2012
I like everyone else have the right to post my opinion on any matter that i want to just like everyone else. For the record I'm born & raised in Armenia , i have alot more right to speak about the things im speaking about then anyone else, i have lived in armenia, i have been threw the 1988 earthquake, i have seen the karabakh war, alot of the syria armenians and armenians like them scattered all over the world have seen nothing to even speak bad about armenia. Don't just sit on your chair in a safe place and start trying to dictate what the government of another country should be doing or shouldn't be doing when YOU, yourself have no contributed to anything for the home land. I rest my case , no more will be posted by me on this matter.
51. Ara Manoogian15:36 - 13 November, 2012
I would suggest that Sako post in a language that he fully understands. Clearly his grammar and use of certain words can't relay his actual feelings. He can't possibly believe that he has more right than anyone else to say what can be said on this subject. Maybe Jesus would have that right, but even then, He would never say that to anyone. Regardless of Syrian Armenians contribution or lack of contribution to Armenia, it is a obligation for the Armenian government to provide assistance to any Armenian they welcome into the country that has come because of dangerous living conditions in their country of origin. If we can't do that much, what is the point of calling Armenia our nation? And in terms of the question of if the Armenian government is able to provide assistance to natives and/or Syrian Armenians, the answer would be yes. The fact remains that the Armenian government under collects in taxes from the ultra-rich approximately $500 million a year and has been doing this for the last 10 years. It's not a question of if the Armenian government could help everyone, but rather if they truly have a desire to do so.
52. Ani02:26 - 14 November, 2012
yes Amerigayen Hayasdan hasdadvadz em 1991- tevaganen, ayn aden vor hosank chegar, louys chegar, senounti bagas, choure geradz em Tokhmakhi kerezmanen, hats chegar, hats ge tekheyi, yev incher incher chegayin, payts voch meg ankam aysbisi dehadj khosagtsoutyounner chem eradz, aynkan dehaj e im hamar yerp martig aysbes gardahaydevin, sa mer hayrenikn e, ir lavov te vadov, voch meg yergri mech chek kednar ayn hankesdoutyoune medki ou serdi inch hayreniki mech. Al ge pave poghoknerou darap tapek hayreniki negadmamp. Chek havnir, sous ou pous katsek, mer gyankn al aveli mi tejvaratsenek. Yes hebard em abrelou im azad yev angakh Hayasdani mech, taparagan abrele hoknadz yegadz em im verchi hankervane, Hayasdan. Voch megis hamar korkere pervadz cheyin, amenkes al sgezpnagan sherchanin ounetsadz enk tejvaroutyounner, oor al vor yertak arachin darinern en tejvar, hedo amen inch ir deghe ge kedne. Hoknetsank ayleves poghokner lesele, yegek yev pokhetsek ayn inch chek havnir.
53. Arman03:32 - 14 November, 2012
My dear Armenians, specially Sako if we keep up with this attitude, defiantly there will be no Armenia or Armenians left behind. We need to keep united and not look at what someone is doing or not doing. I have lived in USA since I was 13 and everytime I am in Armenia visiting I always drink a toast to anyone that I meet the first time or havent seen them after my family left Armenia, I thank them that it is because of them that I have a country. But Sako it was difficult for everyone to keep your Armenian identity alive in a different country is not easy working 3 full time jobs to help family in Armenia is not easy, but we all fought a war of our own. And no body knows what would have happened if we all stayed in Armenia may be would be better maybe not, the important think is that we all care about our country and want to make sure we take care of her each in our powers. I have opened a office Armenia and trying to create jobs as much as possible. I know life was tough in Armenia ans is still tough, and the only way to fix this to be united and help each other all the time no matter where you are from, we are all children of Armenia, if our Azeri or turk neighbors read this they would be laughing at us.
54. Raffi04:02 - 14 November, 2012
Sireli Harazadner, Hayasdani masin shad kankadner ek anoom artyok Soorya nooynbes cher systeme.Baderazmen pakhadz Hayere shad tejvar vijagi mechen yes ge hasganam,payts ayt esel che vor bedke vARGAPEGEN MER yERGIRE, NOOYN TSEVOV sOORYO MECHE AMEN INCH,ELLA GASHARGER BASHDONYANERE GAM GARAVARAGAN KORDZICHNERE,bedke hasgenank vor systemi nooyne.Isg kalov tser tejkohetyooneroon yes ge gardzem te kich me SHAD CHAPAZVANTSE Hayreniki tem gam Gentsaghi ngadmamp.Hishetsek te Hayasdan Yevroba CHE yev badrasd aboor chiga..Ov ge Havni Hayasdan 1000 Parov yegav.Ov chi havnir Asdvadz hedi, 100% hamozvadzem vor Krisdonya Hayeroo hamar ayleves Islamagan yergirner veratarnali Mahaportsetyoone ir antsin yev endanikin tem, Noren gesem Asdvadz okne mer polor Hayeroon vor gabrin Islamagan yergirneroo mech !!!!!
55. Helen Darchinian13:31 - 14 November, 2012
Hargeli Ani ev Rafi,sghal gardzig unig as nyuti masin,polorovin chem uzer anargel kam al viravorel im hayreniks,kani vor es hay em,u erbeq chem karogh ad hangamanq@ shrchantsel,tsavs miayn an e, vor im zavagneris hayreniq@ lini amenalavn u vor misht hbart @llank mer hayrenikov,ev chzghchanq vor tsgel enk Syrian,ayl hbartanank vor chisht qayl @rats enk,,,,,payts galov ayd chap papagats hayrenik@ inch desa???????? desa vor aylevs hayeru mets mas@ ,,artasahmantsi ,, ghamaren mezi,ayl voch te irents harazad@,,,,,,taxin kezme aveli tram garne,dun bid vartses amenen sugh gin@ garne kezme u grtsatsin chap kghape kezi,ashxadanki bidi dimes vrad kghndan @selov ,,menk dzez kzangenk,,,inch chap kviravorves erb vor ktesnas pashtonyaner voronk normal hayeren khosil angam chen kider,bayc anonk ovqer krtutyun u lezuner giden angorts nstel en,u chen kider inchpes orva hats u katsaran abahoven ,vorbisi irents bzdignere goyateven,shad tsavali e ,erb vor ktesnes pzdignerd kpaghin,isk tun hnaraovutyun chunis vorbisi taq hagust arnes,minchev sepagan mashki vra chzgas ches karogh hasganal ays gratsners,hargeli ,,hayrenaser,, @ntertsogh e
56. Andranik18:24 - 14 November, 2012
The funnest of all is, ARE TOON, come home but with MONEY, Armenia can't afford to do any thing for any Armenians who love to come & live in Armenia, if it could it would have done for its own native Armenians who struggle to live, in 20 years of independence thousands of young Armenians & families left Armenia because of financial situation, so how do you expect the Armenian government to help people who have just arrived in Armenia??? more over don't forget that the world is still in recession, where is the economy of Armenia to help??
57. Andranik03:32 - 15 November, 2012
Its hi time that we Armenians learn to be united, no mater where we come from so let us not judge each other & respect our unity, LONG LIVE ARMENIA.
58. Vazgen11:41 - 15 November, 2012
Sireli Helen yev @ntanik, vstahoren irakan en dzer xndirnern u djvarutyunner@. Yes inks tsnvel em hayastanum yev pokr hasakis @ntanikis het stipvadz artagaxtel hayrenikits. Djvar e yegel linel gaxtakan hayrenikits heru . Mer tsnogner@ gaxtel en Che handurjelov bolor nuynatip hayi anun krog stahak apazgayin pashtonyaneri tmardi xtrakan anmardkayin verabermunk@. Ayn jamanak asum eyink megavor en komunistakan karger@, isk hima ? Hima ankaxutyunits 20 tari heto I dems "Sako " neri um vra mexk@ gtsenk? Artsaxi azatamartits heto , 20 tari hayrenikin ajaktseluts millioner nvirabereluts heto I tes nman anshnorhakal verabermunki um megadrenk? Yete voch Mez te spyurkum yev te hayrenikum. El um kam inchi Hamar e mek azg mek hayrenik kargaxos@? Koch em anum hayi patvov u hayastani haratevmamb naxandzaxndir amen mi hayi, dzerk dzerki pastenk mer hayrenasirutyun@ gortsov , bav e xabvenk u xabenk inkners Mez . Ays tarva MIATSYAL HAY FONDI AMBOGHJ GUMAR@ petk e pahanjel vor tramadrvi Siryaits gaxtats mer kuyrerin u yexpayrnerin yev 100% ov voch 10%. hima e gortsov pastelu jam@, bav e inchkan xabetsin. Keran, u mer hetevits xndatsin . Spyurk@ ktan kob chi paronayk hayi anunov stahakner , paronayk Sako ner , u et hayrenik@ vorkan dzern e enkan u aravel mern e , mer paper@ Aryun u krtink en tapeppel vor hay@ parzeres hay kochvi . Kam united armenian fundi ays tarva AMBOGHJ hanganakvadz gumar@ ktramadrvi siryayits Artagaxtats hayutyan@ kam ayn petk e boykotel . Hayastani karavarutyun@ sksyal naxagahits u verjatsrats verjin lkti chinovnik@ "Sako " partavor en yerashxavorel mardavayel verabermunk u patasxanatu en amen mek hayi Hamar vor stipvadz e lkel yerkir@ I Tes kamayakan verabermunki. Yete harts@ ayspes "chirov" xist Che drvi hayastanum vochinch chi poxvi u menk mer jogovurd@ yerani kta u naxandzov k nayi harevan vrastani barepoxumnerin. U k datarkvi mer yerkir@.
59. Sako12:06 - 15 November, 2012
Respect to Ani....excellent. All the people that talk bad about Armenia are enemies of the country, traitors that just sit and read about the bad things happening and talking to other races about how ''bad'' there homeland is. This is it, this is Armenia, love it or leave it and once you leave it and call it names don't ever come back simple. A toast is always made for our soldiers that protect the mother land day and night in all sorts of weather, then you have ungreatful unhuman people that never stop complaining and spread this rubbish instead of talking postive.
60. Sons12:21 - 15 November, 2012
Dear Andranik , the reason that Armenia can not provide for it's citizens is the shameful corruption on all levels . This got to change and now . To provide assistance and to treat Syrian Armenians with dignity is a pan national matter and is at the core of " one nation, one homeland " slogan , anything short of that is a deception and unexeptable . As a good human being and a patriot ( if you are one ) you should Agree that this years funds raised by United Armenian fund should be used to assist Syrian Armenians .100% anythig short of that is unexeptable . I hope you agree .
61. Sako15:25 - 15 November, 2012
It is not Armenia's responsibility to provide assistance to Syrian Citizen Armenians, you don't come begging when you are in need & expect that country to drop everything and provide for you instead of it's own citizens. Armenia's economy is not the best it can barely survive on it's own with it's own population, it's priority is it's citizens that stay in the country and protect it's borders. The United Armenian Fund should be donated to help develop armenia with better health care,better roads, better army, better living for again IT'S citizens that are living in Armenia, all those donations should be the minimum the diaspora has to offer because Armenia was where everything started for you to be sitting in that warm chair of yours and demanding things.
62. HETQ19:38 - 15 November, 2012
Sako...Hetq has deleted your last comment because you misrepresented your identity. We are sure you understand the fact that what you wrote does not correspond to the facts In future, Hetq will delete all comments that include a misrepresentation of the facts as a basis in their arguments; plain and simple.
63. John21:43 - 15 November, 2012
With your permission I just have to respectfully disagree with people who think like "Sako" and "Andranik ". The concept of homeland and patriotism , and or what Armenia represent for Armenian nation is not at all a pile of midevil ruins or nasty smelling taxi drivers that diaspora Armenian can not find in any other country. For most of us it is the common heritage , values and culture we share or want to think we do. Armenia and homeland are not just a real estate for most of us for people like "sako" to take the role of a keeper or the chip souvenir selling vendor. Homeland / Armenia belongs and should care for every and each Armenian person anywhere in this globe or risk loosing the right to be regarded and called homeland . If we don't share the same values together , than what makes us a nation ? Few ruins and mountains ? I don't think so , and strongly feel that the people who use obove listed names are just foreign instigators who work and dream hard to brake the unity of Armenian nation . I support the idea that this years united Armenian fund donations should entirely be used to address the needs of Syrian Armenians . Thank you.
64. Ara Manoogian12:27 - 17 November, 2012
To anyone who thinks that Armenia is a poor country that can not take care of its citizens, I hate to break it to you, but it can if it wants to. The reality is that the Armenian tax authorities have been under collecting about $500 million a year for the last 10 years. That's $10 billion that could have been used to "develop armenia with better health care,better roads, better army, better living for again IT'S citizens that are living in Armenia" and also to help the Syrian Armenians or any Armenian in need.
65. armenag22:21 - 20 November, 2012
Ահաւոր է. ամէն մարդ լատինատառ կը գրէ: Ձեր մէջ հայեր չկա՞ն: Կամ թէ ե՞րբ պիտի սորվիք հայանալ:
66. Avetis00:35 - 16 December, 2012
@Արմենակ Հետք գործակալութիւնը արևմտյան գորձիչների (Արա Մանուկյանի նմաններին) ազատ խաղավայրն է: Այս մարդկանց գլխավոր նպատակը հայաստանում արևմտյան կործանիչ/ապակառուցողական քարոզչութիւններ տարածելն է:
67. Anna01:09 - 2 October, 2013
CHEM KARCUM VRESTANUM BAN STACVI. ES CNVEL MECACELEM TIFLISUM, @NDEX QAXAQ@ SIRUN SARQELEN, BAIC ASHXATANQ CHKA, HAERIN NORMAL GORDZI CHEN UNTUNI, UZUMA DA VRASTANCI HAI LINI KAM MI URISH PETUCYUNIC. SHAT SHAT HAVAQARAR, KAM XODOVIK KAM SAPOJNIK. VRACIQ SHOVINIS AZGEN. MI XAPNVEQ QAXAQI SIRUNUCYUNIN STEX APAGA CHKA HAERI HAMAR. SAX HAER@ PAXNUMEN KAM EVROPA KAM RUSASTAN TIFLISIC. OVOREL ARTASAMANIC GALISA UZUMA GORC DNI LAV POXER@ QAMUMEN U HETEN UXARGUM. ES 25 TARI @NDEX APRELEM U LAV GITEM. HIMA 5 TARIA HAYASTANUMEM AMUSNACAC. STEX MARTIQ AVELI ASHXATASEREN, TENC GOXUCYUN U SPANUCYUN CHKA VONCOR TIFLISUMA, TQAM NARKOMAN CHKA, SAX JAELNER@ NORKOMAN U DARMOEDEN. HAYASTANUM AVELI HANGIST KEXNES QO EREXAI HAMAR. ASHXATANQEL OR LAV MANGAQ KGTNEQ, STEX ES CHEM DJGOYUM IM KYANQIC. VRASTAN MENAK GNUMEM MI SHAPTOV CNOXNERIS TENALU.
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