Wednesday, 20 September

Charles Aznavour "Shocking" Interview - Part 2



NA – In any case.

CA – They don’t want to accept the fact that they took a decision to wipe a people off the face of the earth. Thus, we cannot forget what happened. But we must advance towards hope.

The Turks along the border aren’t opposed to Armenians. The mayor of Diyarbekir has openly stated that such recognition must happen. But there are also those who state the opposite. The Turkish nation is moving and moved at the funeral of Hrant Dink.

NA – And what is your opinion on Karabakh?

CA – It’s part of an overall program. At a minimum, it must be made clear whether Karabakh belonged to Azerbaijan prior to Stalin presenting it to Baku. Is Karabakh a part of Armenia? No, it’s a sovereign country.

NA – Do you seek agreement with the authorities in Armenia before making such pronouncements?

CA – Whenever I discuss my positions with them, they always say that I am correct. But they do nothing. The same in France. It’s not possible to talk with the authorities whoever they are.

I do not believe that France will do anything for us. Turkey is very important for France and we can’t overlook this. France always presents itself as powerful but come decision time it’s another matter. France will never do anything for the Armenians. We have been in a waiting mode for the past 90 years.

And today you are waiting for miracles even though the odds are stacked against such a thing. I do not dream. My life is proof. I have worked. I might not possess the mental prowess to effectively articulate what I believe but I say it nevertheless because it’s what I am thinking.

NA – Have you always been interested in politics?

CA – I am interested in politicians, both male and female. I want to wait and see what they will do. Promises, promises. Yesterday, I hosted my friend Besancenot. (Olivier Besancenot - French far left political figure and trade unionist). I respect the man for his sincerity.

NA – So, in reality, you wish to help Armenians?

CA - We must help them and the Turks. This issue between us must be resolved is we are people with the will to do so.

NA – But the Armenians? Aren’t you plundering them just a bit? Do you hold yourself accountable?

I have spent my life plundering society. Wouldn’t I do the same with Armenians? One day my sister said to me – Do you believe that the Turks can kill you one day?

The Armenians can do the same for the same reasons. I am a risk taker. This is how I see reality. Will I suffer as a result? Perhaps. But let the others show me a resolution and not just protestations.

I discussed the plight of Islamized Armenians with the RA President. I told him something must be done because these people are neglected. They must be helped.

We are not opposed to Islam. There are six wonderful mosques in Armenia that were ‘saved’ despite orders by Stalin to destroy them. Iran is doing what it can to renovate them.

We are a nation and a nation is comprised of all different sorts; the very good and the very bad, and all religions. It is normal that we have Christians, Jews and Muslims. Armenia must move in this direction, just like Europe.

NA – You have known all three presidents of Armenia. Can you tell us your impressions?

CA – No, that’s not my job. They are all men of goodwill. But sometimes circumstances get in the way. In any case, none of the three presidents has ever said ‘no’ to me. Perhaps they should have on certain occasions.

What does it mean to be Armenian today? I would like to know. What does a diaspora Armenia mean? To eat and drink well? To own a store and rattle on about the genocide? Is that what being an Armenian is all about? It is just not enough.


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Comments (7)
1. drizzlebrain22:31 - 8 October, 2011
Thank you for the very powerful insights of the great man with more than a life of experience. Trying to make a difference for the 1,800,000. Open, daring, honest, minimalist in words, capturing everything...
2. ընթերցող23:57 - 9 October, 2011
կարդում եմ ու համեմատում եմ Արա Բալիոզեանի հարցազրույցի հետ: սարեր -ձորեր: Կա քննադատություն, բայց այդ ամենն արվում է սրտավացությամբ, մտածելու ու խորհելու տեղիք է տալիս ամէն մի նախդասությունը, իսկ էդ Արա Բալիոզյանը իսկը ֆաշիստ էր որ կար, հետո էլ ուրիշներին էր ասում: ֆաշիզմ սեփական ժողովրդի նկատմամբ: Ո՞ւր են նուշիկ միքայելյանները, որ ոտ ու ձեռ ընկած Արա Բալիոզյանի նմաններին են պրոպագանդում,կոկորդ են պատռում ու մրոտում են թերթերի էջերը, թող կարդան ու իմանան ո՞վ է մարդը:
3. Hovhannes01:17 - 10 October, 2011
In his lifetime, Baron Aznavour has gone from goodwill ambassador to real ambassador for Armenia -- a role which he is honored to fill and for which he tries to make a difference. Of course, there are "shish kebab Armenians" in the Diaspora. But there are ALSO "khorovats Armenians" in the ROA! Neither peoples should be stereotyped or painted with one brush. Over the many decades, a fair share of Diasporans have sent funds to struggling Armenians in Armenia, Artsakh, Javakh, Lebanon, Iran and elsewhere -- most often at the expense of strengthening their collective cultural identity, preservation and survival in the Diaspora, and only to later be criticized for not being Armenian enough! Many have worked and lived in Armenia, including myself, and I am not alone in having been looked down upon and stolen from for being no more than an honest patriot. Many in the Diaspora has asked the ROA to be trained for a militia to contribute if a war breaks out, and have been denied such a program. Diasporans have finally begun to form their own. Exactly what does Mr. Aznavour now want from us when the ROA regime has made perfectly clear that the Diaspora is to be milked like cows and then dismissed and discarded? Armenians of the Diaspora need an entity that will speak for them and advocate for them, something that they do NOT have coming from ROA or from Western Armenia, leaving them orphaned, just as their ancestors were.
4. Gevorg16:16 - 11 October, 2011
Aispes petq e mtatsi amen mi hay!!!!heriq e syt hairenaser linenq.Iratesytyn e petq!!!!!!!!!!!!
5. ara baliozian19:02 - 12 October, 2011
Baron Aznavour is right! Madame Justice is not blind. She has 20/20 vision – but only for her friends. During our Ottoman and Soviet periods, and today, under our own semi-sultans and neo-commissars, she has consistently ignored us.
6. նպատակ22:09 - 12 October, 2011
//Մենք ազգ ենք: Ազգը բաղկացած է ամեն տեսակի մարդկանցից` լավագույններից մինչեւ վատագույններ, եւ ամեն կրոնի դավանող: Նորմալ է, որ ունենք քրիստոնյաներ, հրեաներ եւ մուսուլմաններ: Հայաստանը պետք է այս ուղղությամբ ընթանա, որով գնում է նաեւ Եվրոպան: // Ոչ մի դեպքում , եվրոպան ուր ուզում է թող գնա, Հայաստանը իրավունք չունի սխալվելու.
7. noname03:36 - 15 October, 2011
Ete duq Hay eq hamarum miayn Araqelakan Ekexecu hetevordnerin, apa mi 5 taruc Hayastanum Hay chi mna, vorovhetev Mardu azgutyn@ voroshvum e voch te kroni patkaneliutyamb, ayl ARyan u ARmatneri, da mekndmisht akanji ox areq, ete cheq uzum haytnvel inqnakorcanman ezrin, chnayac arden layn qaylerov depi da eq gnum!!! Ays Mec Azgaser Mard@ shat chisht e asel, vor menq azg enq, ev ayd azg@ baxkacac e amen tesak mardkancic!! Mardu hogevor@ da miayn iran e veraberum ev Astcun!! Aysorva drutyamb mer mot Araqelakan Ekexecu monopolia e karces, ev ete, Astvac chani, du asenq katolik es, kam uxxapar, kam ateist, kam ariadavan, du arden Hay ches, "axandavor" es!! Vortexa tramabanutyun@?? El chem asum inchpes en verabervum islamacvac hayerin (mi moraceq, vor shater@ stipvac en @ndunel islam@, vor chkorcnein irenc kyanq@, kaskacum em vor shater@ tekuz terterneric ayd mardkanc poxaren nuyn@ chein ani)!! @ndhanrapes 21-rd darn e arden, isk Hayeri 95%-@ der qari darum e aprum, zbaxvelov inqnaxabeutyamb kam jaylami qaxaqakanutyun varelov!! Shat cavali e, vor ays mardu asacner@ shateri uxexnerum chen texavorvum!! "Тому, кто не хочет изменить свою жизнь, помочь невозможно". © Гиппократ
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