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Former Kolkota Armenian School Manager Sends Protest Letter to Catholicos Karekin II

The following is an open letter addressed to Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians regarding a recent Kolkota Armenian high school ruling.  

His Holiness Karekin II
Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians 
Catholicosate of All Armenians 
Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin  
Armenia                                                                                                                 

Your Holiness,

Who would have thought that Your Holiness above all people in Armenia would be the architect of curbing higher education or children. It has been officially announced to the students of the Armenian College by Rev. Father MovsesSargsyan, manager of the school, that the boys will have to return to Armenia once they complete class X, to serve in the Armed forces of Armenia. Until now the students were given the opportunity to complete class X and XII and go to college or get vocational training. This would groom them for their adult life. 

The ACPA (Armenian College and Philanthropic Academy) was founded by patriotic Armenians from Iran and this unique institution has educated Armenian children from many countries. They have been groomed with further studies after school to face their future. 


Why should children come to India any more if they cannot fulfill their dreams of further studies; they can have their basic education in Armenia.  


The ACPA was handed over to His Holiness Karekin I (God rest his soul) who was highly educated and spoke many languages. He fully understood the importance of good education and that military training can be done when they complete their studies.  Soldiers are very important to a country such as ours, no one would disagree.  However, Armenia also needs educated young people for her overall development.

There seem to be no care for the poor Armenians by your Holiness; more emphasis is being laid on promoting the 'Kingdom of Etchmiadzin’ by taking over churches in the East and far East, some of which are very wealthy and located in prime locations in their countries. Priests and Your Holiness live in the lap of luxury and not as servants of God, and there is no effort to help the underprivileged population of Armenia. 

I can well imagine how parents will feel when they know of your ruling- almost sure that your Holiness will not be popular with these hapless people, - not that you are now in any case, as the recent news circulating in the media suggest. 

Respectfully,
Sonia John
Former Chairperson - Armenian Holy Church of Nazareth, Kolkata
Former Manager - Armenian College and Philanthropic Academy
Kolkata, India

Comments (48)

MAX GALSTQAUN
Let go to your supposed facts (got from Mrs John) about the sale of the School. right ?___________________ Haik Sookias Senior, Baliozan sitting in the Committee, proposed to open up the school to all not only Armenians. _________Haik Sookias also set up an FRIENDS OF ARMENIANS society and wanted the School management to be transferred to FRIENDS OF ARMENIANS SOCIETY. The Friends were 90 per cent NON ARMENIANS, .........I was not India at the precise time. __________Irene Harris, Kevin Galstaun and Arnold Andrews got a stay order from the City Civil Court which order Sonia used to STORM the School Managers meeting, throw out Sookias and take over the school effecftively. She then refused to meet Irene, Kevin and Arnold Andrews. ________________ Yes, you may have the College application with you. and you know that I have it too. You knew that right ? Becuase you know me well enough. ___________________AND since you know me well enough YOU KNOW that I am not ANTI FOREIGN. You and me have discussed it and you agreed with me that the best way forward is to get more people settled in Calcutta. I even told you to stay and dont go away, because in the future the Armenian Community needed people like you to remain. __________________There is a misunderstanding that I dont like EVERYONE. Which you KNOW IS NOT TRUE. Ar least you would admit you wrote in anger and say sorry like a gentleman as I have always treated you as such. Let there be civility. ___________The point of LOCALS is this : The Trusts are for CALCUTTA ARMENIANS only. But Calcutta Armenians have NEVER denied helping others. It was a part of history which can not be denied...............So agree on that too? _______________The problem arises WHEN : Scamsters come from foreign countries with the sole purpose of looting the local Armenian Charity. _______Accept the hospitality, enjoy it, make a future, settle down, raise families, enjoy all the properties..BECOME LOCAL,,and it is all yours________________Come with the intention of robbing and then they have to run away like Aghajanian (spelling mistakes dont count Karen, so don't look all wise pretending to correct spelling)............Yes Aghajanian came to Bombay. NOT TO CALCUTTA..he stays away from Calcutta, where the Courts have booked him for running away while he was charged with a crime. If you know him ask him to come back while I am in Calcutta and I will arrange his reception.________________All the rest of your criticism dear Karen is a rant about me njot doing this and that ? You dont know this is India ? Where the police entered a CHILDRENS DORMITORY IN THE ACPA and threw the young people out.______Do you think that could happen in a civilised country? -__________India is totally corrupt, the scamsters have REALISED that, and have targeted India to take over the Trusts illegally. ____________________ Are we still friends ? Or debates makes Armenians bitter against each other ? ___________The notes to Greta and others is about them supporting the conspiracy AGAINST THE LOCAL ARMENIANS.______________all are welcome as FRIENDS, ....LIKE YOU____________scamsters are not welccome______Imagine the hundred of Armenian children in Syria and Iraq and elsewhere..SUFFERING IN CAMPS...we in Calcutta could have helped them all. Made a new community, Instead we are paying for the building of an Armenian Army !!_____ I agree with you lets talk about that...HOW WE CAN STOP THEM BEING SENT TO THE ARMY ? Inform the Indian Govt . right ?
Zaven
Max you cannot talk about Mr. GRETA Like that she has been my teacher and am very proud of her. So dont you dare to talk about any of them like that. These people come here to earn money not to get involved in these sick games of throwns and money. Consider yourself to be Greta or any other teacher Question 1. Who is paying for your shelther? 2. Who is providing you with food? 3. Who is giving your salary? 4. Who takes care of your medical needs? 5. Who pays for your thickets? Etc. After all this if they ask you to do something and you are completely unaware of the mystery behind it what would you do? They dont see what is hidden inside. You are more currupt than the church. Imagine if someone threatens your wife well I wish they do so you'll taste the pain how will you feel? So stop talking about my teacher with your stinking mouth. You can talk about anyone management or the commeettee but not about her or others. I wish I was in India then I could have spoken to you directly.
Sergey
Ararat jan do your business there and dont interfere please. Are you more worried about the children of the college or the flow of money in your pocket which was stopped? You were also tearing yourself once! So please you shouldn't write anything.
Ararat
Սեդա ջան, դուք ին՞չ ասեք, ես կհավատամ, քանզի՝ ձեր մեկնաբանությունից պարզ է նաև ձեր անհատականությունը. Միայն, Bentleyov բառը, ցավոք սրտի չիմացայ թե՝ ին՞չ է:
Ararat
Dear Henrik, I would very much appreciate and will be grateful too, if you could write the anthem of the ACPA for us. Thank you in advance.
Armen Makarian
Max i dont know what is your problem ? why are you calling everyone foreigners ?? you like it or not,the Armenian Church, ACPA,DGS, and all the other Armenian properties belongs to the 'ARMENIANS' and not to the 'FOREIGNERS'. this clearly shows you dont know what is being an ARMENIAN. and regarding to the school, i remember talking to Fr. Movses when i was in kolkata 2 months back, he told me about this matter and he mentioned that its not his personal decision, the decision was taken by the army. but anyway i am sure this issue will be solved by the Management and the students of the college.
Karen Mkrtchyan
Dear Max, I am not going to get into details anymore and pin point where you went wrong. You are never going to stop commenting, pointing out your mistakes isn't something I intend to do for the rest of the month. Just for the record, I don't make up stories, I wouldn't try to be a competition. I am not sure you have all the papers, but then, who am I to speculate. ? This business of everyone is wrong but
Ararat
For the kind attention of the Chief Editor, Mr. Edik Baghdasaryan: Dear Edik, Allow me, to sincerely, thank you and all your colleagues for the hard and at the same time harsh work of Investigative Journalism. I’m fully aware of the hard times you and many of your colleagues have gone through. But, nothing has forcefully stopped the noble work of journalism and that of investigative. Throughout the years the greatest reward HETQ achieved, has been the satisfaction of most of its followers, let alone other worthy awards. For the past many years, HETQ has published articles in regards to the Armenian College & Philanthropic Academy in Kolkata and has covered various issues of the Armenian community of India as a whole! Unfortunately, throughout the past years, there’s been no thorough investigation on almost all posted articles by HETQ whatsoever. There’s been no, satisfying conclusions and solutions to any of the issues. I don’t think the main objective of investigative journalism is merely, publish articles and open letters on various issues and simply standby, read and then post the comments of its followers and the public! Which unfortunately, some are very abusive, insulting and full of disgrace to us all. Our expectations are to read and come up with the actual results of your thorough investigations on each and every article and issue, you post in your website. Sure, from each posted comment you get a clue and can extract some valuable information, but, that’s not enough. HETQ should appoint a qualified an experienced journalist to do the proper investigation and release the final results with actual facts to the public. Of course solutions too, will always be highly appreciated. However, kindly extend my warm greetings to all your hard working colleagues. Thank you.
Anthony Khatchaturian
There are other ways Hetq could scratch below the surface without having to come here: 1. Ask the Cal church to be transparent (they are, after all, a church and a church teaches us good morals, does it not?) by publishing all their accounts, income, expenditure, everything, online. 2. Very light Googling will establish the authenticity, or lack thereof, of many of the recipients of church funds. The Mayo Institute is one such shadowy organisation. 3. Publication of wider documents would reveal more such interesting transactions, such as that between the church and the PS Group (construction firm). But, alas, my breath is wasted. The church will do no such thing, self incrimination would be against the advice of Ginodia.
Ararat
Dear Surik, in your comment, you mentioned that you are not a teacher nor you are from Armenia, but an Armenian from Iran. I would appreciate, if you could take the trouble to contact me via +98 912 3855218. Thanks in advance.
Mushegh
Yes Karen of course we all are waiting for your comment. Mr. Mackertich when was the last time that you contributed to your college? Do you remember?
maraj
Dear Surik jan, it is good to see you defend the management not sure why...but i guess there s something in for you...but sorry most of the things are not correct. I don't have to do reasearch as I know most things and hve good sources who keep me updated. I was going to write a reply to your comment but Mr Karen and Makertich and Ararat have asked most and replied well so I will not repeat. Though I would add a few things here! You say many mistakes happened in the college, What you calling mistakes was a transition phrase and CK-II has taken advantage of that. The school management was dissolved it has Ex student as managers and staff at the school , Why are the managers Priest and Deacons and brothers from the seminary? I am sure there are eligible Ex Students who have a better knowledge of the school and also would be better suited. We have heard priest mis using the money in millions for their own life style ...please reveal the financial records for the past years for all to see. I am sure the Ex students and local Armenian have the right to ask this question. I You write of FB followers ...is this a joke? what has that got to do with the credibility of the school Donal Trump and Jones the cat have millions of followers and that says a lot. You could start by posting all the articles about the school on the FB page ' why don't you begin by postiing the 13 articles that are published here in Hetq. Let the others read and comment and have a clean debate of right and wrong. You say you don't support the Church but you will take the millions they give every year and more!!! so be happy with that...you don't show any records of expenditure? In the past when students came from Iran and Iraq the school managers made sure they either got to a safe country after they finished university and other courses and some were helped well to greener pastures! I would suggest that all the decaons and brothers of the seminary serve the miliraty too and joing Army their prayer and will will go very far and light the soliders spirit too. Let the school work with Ex students Locals and well wishers to have a balanced outcome to this prestigious school. The school should make arrangement to get children from war torn countries and give them a safe haven there that would be a noble thing. There is a lot that needs to be done. Also why does CK-II come to India so often? who is paying? and why? where are the local Armenians I don't see an group photos of the community? is this a secret mission by the entourage to slowly pave the way and at the same time take assets out of the country? there is a lot that is happening Surik Jan..so please try and do something positive we all have to answer one day of all our deeds no exceptional. As for Sir PC and the other donars the must be rolling in their grave to see what is happening with all the donations that were set for a betterment of the school and local Armenians. once again ' let the truth set you free my friend'
Ararat
Dear Davit, could you sincerely tell us, does the law of Armenia have anything to do with the boys, who are from Iran? Could you explain to us as to why? The boys from Iran are being sent back, after completing class 10, i.e. the ICSE exams.
MAX GALSTAUN
The DGS or Davidian Girls School (estate of D.A. David) is open to boys and girls. ____________________________________________________ The DGS is a distinct trust that has NOTHING TO DO, NOTHING TO WITH THE ACPA TRUST. ____________________________________________________ D.A. DAVID specified : that the DGS Trust is for local Armenians. Children of parents WHO HAVE BEEN RESIDENT IN CALCUTTA for three years BEFORE ADMISSION only can be admitted into the DGS. ONLY THOSE CHILDREN. No others.
Sergey
Instead of writing comments either Mr. Ararat go and train your Gabigs and the rest watch a movie or do some productive work. Enkan commentek grel vor Putinna zarmanoom. Mazern tapav vayyyyy.
Henrik
Mr.max the the crackpot and idiot oh sorry MAX THE GREAT please write the school anthem of ACPA if you are an Armenian. All you know is the money?????????????????????? INTERESTING TOPIC FOR YOU I GUESS How you call yourself an Armenian you can even be a great to lives of the people you may be defined as a highly classified terrorist. It is indeed true none of the comments were as threatening as yours. Please do keep yourself away from the college or its pupils you may be of a great danger to each one of them. Life is short enjoy your life and don't waste your energy by running after such topics which are not related to you.
Davit
Boys over 18 years having Armenian citizenship according to the Law on Military Service, are subject to compulsory military service. Armenian students studying in Armenian College of Kolkata are no exception to this law.
Levon
Wasn't this woman fired in 2005 for corrupt financial practices and mistreatment of pupils at the Calcutta school? Yes!!!
Hamik
cont.. so I would ask you to look into this matter. Also my advice would be don't follow the same path you predecessors followed but break the chain. Thank you.
Ararat
Dear Rima, you do have a nice name! But unfortunately, you seem to be a nasty person! First of all you are using abusive and dirty language in your post, which, only suits guys like yourself. Second if you don’t have any clue of the stories being posted, then you better not get involved in this forum. I would advise you to dedicate some of your valuable time and do your own personal investigations and then get ready to comment on the issues being discussed, else just mind your own business!!! However, don't hesitate to contact me, if you need any further clarification or detailed information. Thank you.
Rima
I would request the attention of the Chief Editor, Mr. Edik Baghdasaryan: Dear Edik, it is quite normal that Hetq is doing its job sincerely but I really doubt sometimes. If a person sends you an article reporting the death of the president will you publish/post it as soon a you get it or first clarify it then. For Hetq it is very eaasy to write such things but will you be responsible for the false blames. I really dont know the bullshit stories of Max, Anthony and even Ararat. But if you want to have success then be honest in whatever you publish or post. Sometimes even taking permission or knowing the truth after each and every news its beneficial for all.
Ararat
Hi! Max, hope you are fit and fine and things are up to your great expectations!! In Iran when two friends meet each other after a long period of time, they tell one another: “PARSAL DOOST, EMSAL ASHNA”, which means: “Last year, we, where friends and this year, it seems we know each other”. Thanks to HETQ, making us capable of commenting on various issues virtually! Dear Max, Unfortunately, we’ve never had the opportunity to meet and talk to each other face to face on various issues as a whole, which, I’ve always desired. In the past and on several occasions, you’ve insulted me, abused me and at the same time, passed on false rumors against me. Now you’ve come up with another fairy tale! For your kind information, no girl by the name of LUSINE was admitted to the ACPA from Iran whatsoever! Let that be crystal clear for you. As far as, I’m aware, there’s been no such case of any rape! Instead, I learned that, there was an attempt of sexual harassment towards one of the girls. Now, who the girl was? I swear! I’ve no clue at all! You will very well agree with me that such sad incidents, unfortunately, happen all over the world. But, to make a big show of it, is only a disgrace to all of us! It neither solves any of the pending problems of the College nor the Church and nor the Armenian Community issues! The list of all the children recruited from Iran by me, along with full details of them, is not a secret at all, which, you are requesting me to disclose them! I simply can’t understand what roll will the name list of the children play, in helping to solve problems? Unfortunately, you’re accusing the Indian government to be totally corrupt! Well, that’s your opinion and your personal business too. But, as far as I’m concerned, all the Armenian children from Iran have entered the ports of India legally. So there’s nothing to fuss about! As to how many have been admitted or left the College is not the issue! And has nothing to do with your arguments! Hope, you’ll be a bit satisfied, pertaining your queries. However, keep on with your struggle and fight for justice. Be sure, no one is against your efforts in solving various problems related to Armenians as a whole. But, I would advise you to fix them in a descent and in a human way, without insulting and abusing others, who are struggling for the right cause! By the way, my E-mail address is: [email protected] and my contact cell # is: +98 912 3855218 if it may be of any interest to you. Take care and hope we’ll meet one day.
Hetq
Dear all.....First off....Hetq wishes to remain a forum for all viewpoints. Our ten years of investigative reporting proves this to be the case. We do not wish to offend anyone in this matter. However, those wishing to provide a cogent argument one way or the other need to sit down and write a synopsis of the issues at hand, explaining the background and what they see the main points to be. Dear Max....I read your article that u sent and, truth be told, I couldn't make heads or tales from it, let alone what the documents are alleged to show. You should sit down, take some time, a attempt to organize the issues you see as needing exposure. Everyone is jumping into details and names without any context. The whole affair and the issues involved remain an abstraction. Sorry, but that's my editorial opinion. Those wishing to submit cogent and comprehensible articles are encouraged to do so directly to me for review - Hrant Gadarigian - Hetq English Editor.
MAX GALSTAUN
Dear Hetq thanks.| The copies of the copurt documents were sent to you to willy nilly support the FACTUAL STORY that was sent along with the docs. The story was titled ; STEALING FROM WIDOWS.. ____ It is a FACTUAL STORY ..Better than Sonias letter (had no facts attached). So then lets hope you publish the FACTUAL STORY that is supported with the Court docs. Willy nilly, that's what you agreed to ? I know you are taxed, truly. Hope you hang in as HETQ does a good job fighting corruption.
Hetq
Evidently, this complex and complicated issue will never be resolved in the pages of Hetq. Thus, let's all take a breather for now and cease the back and forth comments. I would argue that 98% of readers have NO CLUE as to the issues involved, the history, or the players. Again, one can send all the court documents you want to Hetq. What are we supposed to do with them? Publish them willy-nilly without any context or counterpoint? NO...Those wishing to submit factual articles on the matter are encouraged to do so. But enough of the attack-counterattack comments. It's going nowhere.
MAX GALSTAUN
Surely the Church of Etchmiadzin will fund the HETQ investigation ? They must put to rest all the allegations ? __________________ I have sent a batch of court documents with scanned documents concerning the fraud of the Armenian Trust property. I HETQ has got the docs with the attached story? _______Ararat will not feel the heat so much if he gives full details of a) all the children he brought to India b) How many were returned c) Was the girl LUSINE on of the children he sent to India (she was raped inside the Armenian College during Sonia Johns management) d) Did Ararat know about this rape ? __________e) What did he do ? (report Sonia John to the police) f) Where is this girl LUSINE ? Hetq should be able to find her. It will make a good story._________Before the ACPA fellows start jumping about: the RAPE STORY was published by Rev Gulgulian's letter. The letter of GULGULIAN was submitted to Court, So dont jump about me, GULGULIAN recorded the rape !!__________C'mon Ararat tell us what you know about rape and cover up ?
Anthony Khatchaturian
Dear Edik (if I may), In response to your question about why haven't we, the opposition, taken the Church to court, allow me to illustrate the challenges we face: 1. Funding: The Church has an almost unlimited source of funding and spends a disproportionate amount on legal fees hiring the best lawyers in the city - Ginodia & Co. This is not an opinion, this is a fact. You may ask the Church how much they spend year on year. 2. Funding: High Court lawyers aren't cheap and Ginodia play the Indian legal game exceptionally well with a tailor made course of action designed to drain the bank accounts of us mere mortals who must work for a living. Cases are deferred, delayed, go on for years, they digress into other courts. All of this costs money. 3. Funding: Please feel free to ask the Church how much they have donated to the 'Chief Minister's Disaster Relief Fund'. Pram Facie, this looks like gold old Armenian Benevolence. Those who know these characters better and who also know Indian politicians, know that this is a slush fund for white money. One can only guess the off the books donations. This places prominent politicians and judges within reach of your benevolence and therefore do your bidding. So to answer your question, in brief - we have tried, are trying and will continue to try to bring some accountability to the church. The battle wages on, and so it must! P.S did I mention funding is our main challenge?
Hetq
Dear Ararat....Hetq thanks you for your kind words. However, to fully investigate what is going on within the Armenian community in India would require a team of Hetq reporters on the ground for a prolonged time. This requires money! Hetq has a hard enough time investigating stories in Armenia and Artsakh. Independent journalism comes with a price. Sadly, most aren't willing to support such journalism. Given the passions expressed by readers regarding Sonia John's original letter and the multitude of opinions, such an investigation would require speaking to all sides of the issue, locating and examining official documents and records, etc. This wouldn't be an inexpensive proposition. BTW, journalists, even the best, can only expose the truth. What transpires afterwards, as a result, is up to others, whether law enforcement, the courts, legal counsels, etc. Perhaps this is a naive question, but why haven't the opposing sides in this seemingly unresolved issue taken their findings/evidence to the courts and officials in charge?
Ararat
Farewell my friends farewell!!! Do stay well, take care and may God bless you all. Thank God, the pending problems of the ACPA, the Armenian Church affairs and the Armenian community issues, have all been solved! I do appreciate the hard and tireless hard work done by all. You may now take a long leave and rest for a few months or even years and when the next episode starts, you are all invited to come back fresh and with some new and brilliant ideas. Hope we’ll work as a team again, just for the prosperity of the Armenians in India as a whole!! Once again, I sincerely, thank you all for your kind and active participation! The roll we played, indeed solved all the pending issues and problems!!! THE END
Karen Mkrtchyan
(Continued...) but You hasn't got you very far. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. So I will let you be in this business of insulting everyone. Just know that you are on your own. Also, Henrik was never in the church committee, Aghan Baliozian was not in the school committee either and Vram Aghajanian did come to Kolkata when he was in Mumbai. So your facts are far from the truth. Yes, I do agree that we should increase the number of Armenians in Kolkata, but how long before you turn up and start calling them thieves and illegal immigrants? Your thrive on the problems that infest the community here, I doubt if you are looking for a solution. I shall not engage with you under this post anymore. I advise others not to either. Farewell.
Anthony Khatchaturian
One last 'strategic' observation - In most civilised, steady and mature democracies, the separation of Church & State is seen as fundamental to the effective and secular functioning of a nation. Armenia, with its regressive, conservative and Sharia system of allying the Church with governance, has shown itself to be very under-developed in this field of thinking. The sooner the church restricts itself to religious activities and pulls out of brain washing our children, the better it will be for Armenia in the long run.
Anthony Khatchaturian
Let's leave the squabbling aside, for a moment. 1. Why is Armenia such an unstable country, attempted coups are frequent, thus compelling them to have this silly conscription system? 2. In the event someone quotes the Israeli model to me, the Israeli's offer a lot (do let me know if the Armenian Govt offers the same, if not, why not?): Either before or after conscription, Israel pays for the further education of its soldiers, all university fees are paid for to whatever extent the soldier wishes to study. Soldiers also get free, high quality and lifelong medical insurance. Will the Armenian Govt offer to do the same, do they have any such policy? 3. Is Armenian patriotism so weak, or the benefits of joining the army so poor, that it's people must be forced to join? Even in a third world country like India, or a first world country like the UK or US, applicants are plentiful, no need to force people. These are signs of civilised nations. 4. What about all the students who have benefitted from their beloved Armenian College, what have they returned to it? Any of them ever sponsored a child's further education? Bought a laptop for the school? Done anything for Calcutta? Left any endowments? Has any philanthropy ever been provided by any ex-student in the history of ACPA? Many are doing well in western countries, living a life far better than they had in Armenia or Iran, have they ever thanked the school by returning the favour?
Ararat
Sergey, have the guts to come up with your real name, i.e. if you have one! I would advise you to, never in your lifetime hide behind fake names! Be sure you will suffer a lot in the future. What are you afraid of? Be brave, be a gentleman and like many of the commentators come up with your real name. Show to all, that you are a Son of a great family and not else! Sure, you are absolutely right, I’ve always been after money and nothing else, is of my interest! Unfortunately, you show yourself to be an illiterate or simply a real idiot, to think likewise of me.
Dianna
DEAR MAX. IF YOU COULD HAVE SOLVED ANY problem WITH THE AMOUNT OF PROVES THAT YOU HAVE EVEN FROM A BASTERD LIKE KHOREN OR THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE EARLIER. THAT TIME WAS YOUR MOUTH OR POCKET FILLED WITH MONEY UNTILL THEY KICKED YOU OUT AND NOW YOU DECIDED TO FIGHT. Atleast be ashamed of your age and white hair.
Ararat
Mr. Sergey, (if that’s your real name, which, I doubt) it seems, you’ve not been disciplined well! By the way, one of the Gabigs, i.e. you, is missing from the training camp! You better come and get some perfect training!
Seda
Ararat jan vor asem Bentleyov khavatas?
Henrik
Dear Max then I guess you should have taken the money and got siktir from here. But by the way even if the school would come out of the hands of Armenia how would it benefit you? Would you keep on haveing babies to fill up the college??? Even you dont want there to be any armenian student from diaspora. Whom you would like to bring to study there? You are hell of a joker man.
Henrik
Dear Anthony my comment was about the new people who claim that our college has is breeding thieves. And my talking about the anthem I dont know what you thought about but I was talking about those who claim to be the student and then threaten the teachers as well as the students.
Ararat
Սեդա ջան, շատ հետաքրքիր մեկնաբանություն եք գրել. Միայն թե՝ մենք չիմացանք, ին՞չ զենքով պիտի գնանք կռիվ որպեսզի հաղթենք, եղբայրներս ու ես:
MAX GALSTAUN
There is no need to answer an imbecile and an idiot who cannot use his own name. So HENRIK get lost. ____________________________________________________ Ahh the Priest admits that I have warned Greta. You see I warned Vrej Aghajanian, filed a criminal case against him in thye criminal court, he begged t keep his passport and THEN RAN AWAY. Fromm the Courts. From me. He couldn't face me. Bishop Baliozan ran away. Never came back. ____________________________________________________ You need Rs 135 thousand a week to go to the Armenian Church. Thats the amount stolen by Khoren. And he wont be coming back. Anyone can go to the Enforcement Firectorate (Financial police) Salt Lake, Calcutta and find out how the case is going on against Khoren. ___________________________________________________ Ahh Priest felolow hiding inside the School. Please I BEG OF YOU within the next 48 hours go to the police and report me for warning Greta and the foreigners for telling them they will be prosecuted for crimes. You see it will help me. Greta and her fake teachers inside the School will be told by the Court TO REMAIN IN INDIA to be questioned in the case. I am an Indian citizen. India is my home. I love to stay. It will be wonderful days to have these teachers CROSS EXAMINED in Court. What day !! Of course, they must hand in their passports which will be seized and locked. Am I not happy ? I will be very very happy. So dear Priest fellow, whoever you are WITHOUT A NAME, please do meet me tomorrow ANYWHERE in Calcutta. And stand and read out what you wrote IN PUBLIC. You can hide inside the Armenian College, you cannot run away from the LAW. ___________________________________________________ Besides I am rolling over in LAUGHTER ..the imbecile Henrik and the sodomist Priest HAVE NOT denied the FACTS I ALWAYS PUT UP. Start talking about FACTS. ____________________________________________________ The ACPA HAS NOT BEEN HANDED OVER to the Catholicos. It is the property of the Government of India. It will always be. ___________________________________________________ Fact : The Catholicos is ONLY the Administrator (until another will be appointed) _________________________________________________ FACT : The Catholicos and the Priests ARE FALSELY AND ILLEGALLY running the DGS. They are fraudulently accessing the BANK accounts of the DGS by impersonation and fraud. ____________________________________________________ Dear rapist Priest, Khoren used to rape a girl repeatedly inside the College, her boyfriend objected, they beat him up and sent him back to Armenia. We have a recording by Khorens house cleaner ah ha, but we cant use it because the girl wants to be protected. ____________________________________________________ We dare Hetq.am whom is publishing these stories without any investigation of its own. ________________ For hetq : How many orphan children were brought to Calcutta AND BAPTISED AND GIVEN NEW NAMES ? Where did they get these Orphan kids ? How many ORPHAN KIDS are left in the ACPA ? How many have left ? How many have VANISHED ? Where are these kids now ? Sold ? To whom ? ____________________________________________________ C'mon those who want to join the debate STICK TO FACTS. If you have facts PUT THEM OUT. Or show that my FACTS are wrong ? Or shut up because you have no facts EITHER WAY.
Anthony Khatchaturian
1. The woman who handed the school over to a bunch of criminals disguised as Priests is now complaining about these Priests. There's a degree of irony in that. 2. At least one of these Priests has been found to have been a KGB spy. A few others are being investigated. 3. I don't see why so many of you need to hide your full and real names. 4. Henrik - I think yours was the most valuable comment here: one must know the ACPA school song to be an Armenian. Millions of Armenians across the world have been summarily stripped of their identity as Armenians by your comment. Superb. 5. With the vast amount of funding that the Cal Church and ACPA has, it is indeed a wonder that it continues to be a school for delinquents. It never appears on any list of well performing schools, never. Rugby (grown men chasing a ball in displays of physical prowess and mental retardation) is the one exception, that aside it has never gained any respect in academic fields nor have any of its students achieved anything more than illegal immigration to the US and Canada via Eastern European countries falsely claiming to be refugees. 6. Sorry for sounding repetitive - but Sonia John first hands over the Church to criminals then gets ousted in a spectacular coup by dubious characters. She then complains about the said criminals and the dubious characters. Oh the hilarity cannot be contained!
Seda
Անորեն թուրքն է տիրել մեր երկրին, Ինչ սրտով պետք է մտնենք անկողին, Մամ ջան չտխրես, շատ չմտածես, Գնում ենք կռիվ ախպերս ու ես: Խավար գիշեր է նստած ենք փոսում, Այստեղ հայ քաջի արյունն է հոսում, Եկել ենք կռիվ, կռվում ենք այսպես, Հայ ազգի համար ախպերս ու ես: Երբ լուսաբացին թուրքն է ներս սողում, Մեր զիլ հարվածից երկինքն է դողում, ՈՒ թե պետք լինի կզոհվենք այսպես, Հանուն հայ ազգի ախպերս ու ես: Էլ հետ դարձ չկա կռիվ է սաստիկ, Օրհնանքտ տուր մեզ ու մի լար մայրիկ, Թե մի օր կտրիտ զույգ արծիվ տեսնես, Էտ մեր հոգոգնեն ախպերս ու ես: Մամ ջան կբացվեն դռները մեր գոց, Ոսկի կհագնի սև օրն հայոց, Ու ACPA կդառնանք հաղթությամբ էսպես, Ծափով ծիծաղով ախպերս ու ես:
Mackertich
Surik jan, we are on the same side, in fact everyone commenting here has the best hopes of the students in mind. You must see that. Karen’s comment is right we should not forget the original article, that the education of the students at the Armenian College will not last as long as those ex students who have previously studied there. This is the point that the new ruling means education of the current and future students of the school will not allow them to experience the great further education that previous students have. Opportunities are being taken away. The article says let the students complete their education then do military service. It is not an unreasonable suggestion by Sonia John. The rule change decision to send students to military training from school needs an explanation, students, parents and the wider community may then understand this move.
Ararat
Dear Surik, (as you call yourself by that fake name) In your comments, you mentioned about me, saying; “There was a guy who used to work for the school in Iran I guess it was Mr.Ararat then what happened that he was asked to stop his work???” For your KIND INFORMATION, I’m the “guy”, you’re referring to. You have asked a perfect question, as to what happened that I stopped my work? You seem to be capable of solving all problems in the ACPA and do have answers to all questions! Then kindly, tell us why? I stopped my work in recruiting young students from Iran, which, I did for almost Ten years. In my previous post, I’ve given my contact details, for you to call me, i.e. if you are from Iran!!! Unfortunately, till date I’ve received none! Now, you tell us what does that mean? Kindly, prove yourself that you are not a liar nor you come under fake names! Be brave and have the guts to call me, if you are a gentleman! Well, it seems you are aware of all the major and minor activities taking place in the ACPA of Kolkata, both past and present and that from Iran, so far away. Fine, you might say; I’m in constant contact with the students, including your “Sisters son” who is currently a student there. Could you be kind enough to tell us, as to when? Your nephew was admitted to the ACPA. Is he from Iran too? As far as I know, the last group of students from Iran, who were admitted, goes back to 2009-2010 and they were the last group of students from here. From then on and to the best of my knowledge, no child has been admitted, following my resignation as the official representative of the College in Iran.
Mackertich
Surik You talk as someone who knows what is going on. Then surely you will know that the new rule change is one that will handicap the next and future generations of Armenian children educated at the Armenian College. Don’t patronize the Armenian community of Kolkata by saying they only turn up for chocolates and cake. How dare you. Perhaps if those Armenians, such as yourself, who consider themselves “true” Armenians could actually stop creating an “us and them” situation in Kolkata, so that the Armenians of Kolkata don’t actually feel second class citizens to you “true” Armenians, things could be different. But until the clergy, the Church Committee, and the privileged, such as YOU, can actually learn to be genuine and inclusive of all people regardless of their position, background and general standing, it is YOU who generate the divide and YOU who keep the local Kolkata Armenians at arms length. Then you criticize them for not being at church. Why should the beaten and intimidated dog come back for more bad treatment? Perhaps you privileged people sitting in your ivory tower at the Armenian College could stop feeding the great divide between those who have been in Kolkata for years, and those who are on a 4 year jolly. All you have done is helped to continue to alienate the locals by your lack of inclusion and are happy to complain about them because it makes you look holier than thou. YOU give Armenians a bad name by your attitude. Who put you in the superior position above everyone else, not exactly very Christian of you. You write with accusation in your tone, when you say “today do we see many in the churches on Sunday ofcourse not only once in a year whenever we distribute choclates or cakes” rather than suggesting attempting reuniting and reconciliation with the local Armenians you condemn their absence. The local Armenians have long felt used and upset by you and your privileged cohorts and now you’re trying to make them feel guilty about turning up for cake and chocolate. Is there no end to your shame? And do not preach: “Please if youll have enough guts or feeling for your school or the children of the college atleast send christmas cards or any parcel. Why you talk so big and then demand answers. Ask yourselves first what have you all done for yours college”. Over the years I have heard time and time again from ex students who have gone to visit the school, who have tried to treat the children, but have been asked NOT to give them gifts or sweets. The management do not want the children to have gifts from visitors, so Surik do not make out that the ex student community around the world doesn’t try to help. Here is a perfect example from a visitor to the Armenian college. Knowing that the kids were rugby mad, the visitor managed to get some rugby kit from the England team and a team signed ball from rugby headquarters in Twickenham in London. The visitor asked the priest to pass it out to the kids. when asked how the kids were enjoying playing with the ball the priest said: “I offered it to them they didn’t want it so I kept it”. Tell me, why would rugby mad Armenian kids not want an England team fully signed rugby ball? Show me one child in the Armenian College who wouldn’t want rugby kit as a gift. The kids never got the shirts either. Gifts and parcels don’t make it to the kids, unless its something a priest doesn’t want. As you say so in your own words perfectly “this is really irritating”. Yes it is. Priests cutting education opportunities where before there were plenty, the privileged treating the local Armenian community as second class citizens, and selective distribution of gifts from visitors and ex students controlled by management. Irritating indeed. Your words fit this situation exactly. You talk of betrayal, it seems to me the apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree. The only betrayal taking place is of the diminishing Armenian locals in Kolkata by those, including YOU Surik, who don’t have to pay for anything, because Paul Khachik Chater is doing that. That is the biggest betrayal.
Surik
Who are maraj & davit?
maraj
This open letter gives a good insight of how things are functioning in the Armenian school in India. This is the only Armenian School outside Armenia to have survived for nearly 2 centuries. That is great credit to the Armenians of India and the Alma Mater. However the recent takeover has only seen problems after problems. The school now looks more like a seminary then that of what the school is supposed to be. The school always had manager who where past students . So who are the managers now? and why is there no representative from the Armenian Community ? Are there no Ex School students who should be in the management of the school. I had been to India a few years ago and met a few Ex students ( from India and abroad) who seemed very suprised on why they were not approached to be involved in the school management and always left in the dark. They said the management was always in the hands on the local Armenians that is why it stood for so many years. I have met Sonia who is the author to this open letter. I can say she must be regreting what she did and this is the wildest dream come true to her. The School needs to get back to what is was and we all know what happens when things get passed to CK- it does not end well for the stake holders. It is time to return the management to the Local and let them do what is right or wrong its there business. It was built by them let them if they have to bring it down not that i suggest that but outsiders should not interfere. As for the them concern I thin the parents should be notified and immediate steps taken to see that they are well informed. No parent wants to send there children to an Alein country at age 7 and after 10 year get them back and they go to war at age 17 that would be disaster . As for the priest there are too many for a congregation or a 100 odd members, They should be sent to Africa and remote places to preach not have such luxury life style. THIS HAS TO STOP.
Mackertich
If this article is correct, Fr Moses Sargsyan and His Holiness Karekin II have taken child exploitation to a whole new level. The Church is now happy to create soldiers from scholars. The responsibility placed upon the current manager, headmaster, teachers and support staff for the welfare and education of the young children who attend the Armenian College in Kolkata is one of the greatest responsibilities an educationalist can have. So much rests with so few. Yet they are now all complicit in snuffing out nearly 200 years of strong further educational links that hundreds of Armenian children have enjoyed in India since the inception of the school in 1821. It does not matter whether you are a friend or foe of the original writer of the article, what matters here is that Armenian children in an Armenian school in India are no longer being given the full educational support and opportunities that have previously been available to them. After they have served the statutory time in the Armenian military, how are they meant to get the further education they need to be able to make a positive contribution to Armenia? And what of future students? Why would a parent consider sending their young 7 or 8 year old child to the Armenian College in India if they now know that at the end of their time at the school when the child reaches the age of conscription they must join the army. Armenian parents send their child to be educated in India in the hope it is the spring board for a life beyond the restrictions of the motherland. Not as a way to capture young Armenian hearts and minds for military manoeuvres. The Armenian College in Kolkata is a unique institution. It is making an irresponsible decision to cut the education of the children at such a young, impressionable age. What parent would send their young children to such a place knowing that there was no hope for a full education beyond 16 to 18 years of age. It is now only an institution preparing children for military action which may well include war. Haven’t we seen enough Armenian children lose their childhood to war already in the last 5 years, why has Hayr Moses and His Holiness become so short sighted, could it be to do with wealth the Armenians enjoy in India? Children should be educated with books, not bullet. Father Moses and Vehapar, allow the children this precious gift, they can return to Armenia and fulfil their duties after the fullest of educations have allowed them to develop into adults. Do not rob them of their childhood.

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